The Matter of Iraq

Every day I grow more frustrated by conservative commentators, a couple of whom are featured on my station, to spin the conflict in Iraq as a war against terrorists who would otherwise be blowing up cars and churches in the United States.  Either they don’t understand what’s happening or they’re deliberately misrepresenting the facts to shore up what public support remains for the war.

The fighting in Iraq is a civil war between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, and our young men and women are being killed when they get in the way.  Maj. William Voorhies, the American commander of a military training unit in Baghdad, said just that in an interview with the New York Times: “I have come to the conclusion that this is no longer America’s war in Iraq, but the Iraqi civil war where America is fighting.”

The violence is a struggle for power between the majority Shiite population and the embittered Sunnis, who are trying to hold onto the power they enjoyed under Saddam.

The creation in Iraq of the only Shiite-run Arab government, toppling long Sunni dominance, has released long-restrained hatred between Islam‘s two main sects. Battles between Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias are claiming scores of victims every day and forcing tens of thousands to flee the country.

And while the main battle has been in Iraq, Shiite power has become a dominant issue across the Middle East, and Sunni Arab leaders in Jordan and Saudi Arabia are expressing growing concern about Shiite power in the Arab lands, often backed by non-Arab, Shiite Iran .

The two sides have been politically divided, too. Sunnis are by far the majority in the Muslim world, but in some key Arab states the Shiites are a majority or a significant minority — in Iraq, Bahrain, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia — but have been dominated by Sunnis, often as a legacy of colonial rule by the Sunni-ruled Ottoman Turkish empire and the British.

The world is better off without Saddam Hussein, but guys like Hannity and O’Reilly need to quit painting this as a righteous battle against the forces of evil.  It may be that the Bush administration has set in motion a regional civil war, and we need to quit politicizing our interpretations and see it for what it is.

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5 responses to “The Matter of Iraq

  1. While the world is preoccupied with the execution of one man, the
    truth is:
    If Muslims Believed Muhammad, They Could Transform the World.

    Through the Koran, Muhammad tells Muslims to “Say: We believe in God and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael, to Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and what was given to Moses and Jesus and the prophets. We discriminate against none of them” (The Family of Imran 3:84).

    Another time, Muhammad warns Muslims against drawing “…a line between God and His apostles, saying: ‘We believe in some but deny others….’” (Women 4:150).

    About 3,400 years ago, before the Hebrews had even entered the “Promised Land,” Moses warned his people of a future day, when they would be “…driven out [of the Land] to the farthest parts under heaven…” (Deut. 30:4). But Moses also assured the Israelites that God “…will have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where the Lord your God has scattered you” (Deut. 30:3).

    If, today, Muslims truly believed Muhammad, they would believe “what was given to Moses.” And they would rejoice in the resurrection of Israel as Moses foretold. Instead, countless Muslims, “believe in some [prophets] but deny others,” while they prepare to “wipe Israel off the map.”

    In other words, if Muslims believed the Prophets who preceded Muhammad and drew no “line” between them, they would humbly admit to God and the world, “We have been wrong to fight against Israel.” And an astonished world would behold Israel’s deadly enemies evidencing incredible faith, unmatched by Jews and Christians throughout their bloody history!

    If militant Muslims and their supporters renounced their ignorant rejection of Israel and transformed themselves into peaceful believers in Abraham’s God, astounded Jews and Christians would be hard-pressed to renounce their own ignorant dismissal of Muhammad as a “false prophet” and Islam as a “false religion.”

    Then, Jews and Christians, following the Muslims’ unique example, could finally abandon their own erroneous manmade teachings about “the Messiah Jesus” (Women 4:171) and embrace Muhammad’s messages about him, which Jews and Christians have always scorned — the very messages that could create peace among all “believers.”

    If Muslims believed Muhammad….

  2. I realize the Iraq war seems to not be going good. And many can debate as to why it is. So lets say we pull out you know if will never be a full withdrawl much like Germany, Japan and other areas after WWII. But do you think we need to pull out of Afghanistan as well?

    I guess I am confused by your opinions at times. You say on one hand you support the troops then say we are not fighting evil. I’d call muslim terrorists evil and even if we fully pulled out and didn’t have bases there they’d still want to blow us up so we’ll eventually have to fight them again right?

    What I don’t understand is why other nations like France, Germany etc. don’t see Iran or Syria as a threat? Why don’t they step up and take a stand against these whacks? All they do is snivel about the US responding to them. Fine let them blow the hell out of their country and deal with it by themselves.

    Every country in the world has corrupt governments. No one is exempt because sin has no bounds in an ubelieving world. I am tired of everyone bad mouthing our country as if theirs is so much more moral. I use to think Babylon the great would be a rebuilt city of great commerce but I am starting to think it just may be the US. Everyone loves to whine about what we do globally fighting terrorists that others won’t but when our country becomes neutralized in the future at some point and everything we offer the world goes bye bye they’ll then mourn the loss as Revelation says.

    I am probably wrong but I could totally see that happening. I’ve always found it ironic that arab nations call us the great satan but always send their people here to get educated and trained.

    As our pastor says “The insanity of unbelief.”

    Sorry for the ramblings just kind of opening up my mental flood gates tonight.

    Von

  3. Muslim terrorists are evil. But who are we really fighting in Iraq? Are we truly fighting the same people who flew planes into buildings on 9/11/01, or are we trying to separate two warring groups fighting over the scraps of Saddam’s kingdom?

    As I see it, it’s the latter. Even the US military has assessed Al Qaeda in Iraq as less of a threat than Moqtada Al-Sadr’s Al Mahdi Army, which is directing its violence primarily at Sunnis. What started as an exercise in regime change has degenerated into a dangerous game of playing referee to religious fanatics who hate us only marginally less than they hate each other.

    I’m more concerned with terrorists who might be slipping across the southern border while we’re concerned with “surging” in Iraq. If I were a terrorist, I’d send my men where the American troops aren’t. If your goal is to create terror, doesn’t that make more sense?

  4. I understand that argument but Iraq as whole WAS a state sponsor of terrorism. I may get the spelling wrong but everyone seems to want to forget the iron clad evidence that Iraq did sponsor terror training camps like ‘Salman Pak’. You can read that here: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/2002question/salmanpak.htm

    Some of the intelligence we used proved to be true some didn’t or at least will never be proven to be true so everyone will just gravitate towards assuming the worst. I am referring to WMD’s of course.

    How should we have stopped Saddam then? No one else was going to. Sure the situation now doesn’t look good but if we pull out then radicals will become leaders and terror camps will come back.

    You do make it seem like the only true terrorist is Al Qaeda and since there is a ton in Iraq then it’s not valid. Terrorists come in all varieties though and are not limited to Al Qaeda. And our war isn’t limited to Iraq either it’s in Afghanistan, Asia and here in the US.

    Your right about our borders though. What truly frustrates me though is Iran is boasting about wanting to secure nukes but North Korea has them and has even fired tests with one cruising over part of Hawaii yet we don’t do squat about it? If that was Iran we’d be bombing them now. I’ve never heard a good argument as to why we don’t respond to those actions?

    You said “If I were a terrorist, I’d send my men where the American troops aren’t. If your goal is to create terror, doesn’t that make more sense?”

    Yes that does make sense. So is your assumption then that Iraq isn’t a terrorist war but rather us in the middle of a civil war and the motivation was oil? If so then what is Al Qaeda doing? Just slowly building towards the next 911?

  5. To be clear, I have no objection to taking out Saddam Hussein. However, we haven’t handled the aftermath well at all, and the clear objective was not eliminating terrorism but oil and the reconstruction projects that would be doled out.

    See the website promoting ComDef 2006:

    The United States government is preparing to auction off over 6,000 miles of unsecured border-lands to companies prepared to bring in technology, manpower and physical infrastructure. These projects will keep investment closer to home – providing a much safer arena for profiteering than the current quagmires overseas.

    As the successful “Iraq model” has already proven, private enterprises will be at the head of the line for hundreds of government contracts worth billions of dollars – which Congress is already approving for securing the border.

    The successful “Iraq model”? For whom has Iraq been a success? Only those on the boards of directors for corporations on the receiving ends of government contracts.

    This whole affair makes more sense when one views the governments of the world as middle management. The real decisions are made by the boards of directors, the oligarchs who pull the strings from behind the scenes.

    Who benefits from the mess in Iraq? Are we really more secure? No, not when our borders are practically wide open. But it costs a lot more to move the men and material needed to fight the battles over there than it would here, and there are plenty of powerful men ready and willing to sign the contracts that effect a massive transfer of wealth from us to them.

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